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contract stranglehold

i recently ran across a friend’s post about customer service, and while i was tempted to add my 2 cents on to his blog…i figured i’d share my thoughts on my latest experiences (and yes i do mean experiences). prior to diving right in, a quick update. given the latest changes in my life, i had to contact a few providers in order to purchase their services (which included cellphone, cable, internet, and more).
at the beginning of this week i went to shaw to ‘plea’ my case and try to get a worth while package which should include high speed internet and an hd box. prior to this i did go by telus and got information on their latest offer (free basic hd for a student for a year, $10 off dsl internet, free hd box rental for the duration of the 3 year contract and $6 or $5 per package depending on the number of packages you get on top of the basic cable). well, this seemed a bit cheaper than what the regular price shaw had…but shaw has stepped it up a notch – they’re offering no contracts. so, on monday i went by the shaw tower (the only location in vancouver…) and decided to test the waters and see what they would offer me. to my surprise i didn’t really have to plea anything as they essentially threw a package at me that i just couldn’t refuse (yes somewhat of a godfather reference, but no guns). the offer, free 2 months full hd and high speed internet, and then $20 for their service for the next 10 months, with free rental of the hd box. i didn’t quite have a comeback or any desire to try and decrease the price.

the beauty of shaw is the fact that you don’t have to sign a long term contract, make the commitment in order to get the sweet deal. well, if you live in vancouver you most likely know that shaw is pretty much the only provider that offers this. by far the worst company to deal with when it comes to contracts is rogers wireless. at this point they are the only providers of a wireless service that uses sim cards (yes i know fido does too…but fido is rogers little b…., so your money still goes to rogers). anyhow, bell is bringing (or phasing i should say) this particular service in by the end of the year (i can’t wait). anyhow, long story here’s what happened.

first, a bit of background. i’ve had a rogers cellphone for about 7 years now. i have three lines on my account and i’ve had three lines for the last 3 years, and the previous 4 i had 2 lines. more or less, what i learned about rogers is…as long as you’re under contract you are just a little number to them and you won’t get any attention. that includes disrespectful customer representatives and lack of care. about 3 weeks ago i went by one of their retail locations (and if you’ve ever been to one, you know that it’s useless if you’re a customer already as those little pawns are useless. so, i decided to call customer service and ask to add a fourth line on the account, just offer me a better deal that a new customer would get (given i’ve been with them for 7 years). now, i have roughly 1 year to go on each of the three lines i have with them. so, the first customer representative that i got pretty much told me to ‘fuck off’, because i’m already getting a sweet deal which i shouldn’t be getting from them. essentially a few years back after my contract was done i called and tried to cancel because bell offered me the same place for $10 cheaper, so rogers matched it by giving me a $10 credit per phone per month on the account. after this, i told him the offer bell gave me 2 days earlier…even cheaper than i’m paying rogers right now (which would included 250 daytime minutes, called id, voice-mail, 250 txt, free bell to bell, weeknights from 7pm and weekends free all for $32/month which included the system access fee and tax…sweet deal). so i asked rogers to match, so that i don’t have to get bell at this point. the customer rep shortly told me no, we can’t, you’re getting a good enough deal, plus we have the best network service available, implying i won’t switch. i inform him that their network does fail quite frequently…at which point he states…it’s due to my phone because it’s 2 years old. it’s two years old…if the phone wont’ work properly after two years…then why have a 3 year contract…

anyhow, called again and talked a new rep. he was more helpful…and to some extent had a bit more professionalism in his approach. however, he offered me a plan at the price for a new customer…stating that in a few months i can call and ask them to change it by stating i have 4 lines and i’m loyal, so please decrease my payments (they won’t do that now…doubtful they will when i have a plan which has just under 3 years left). anyhow…i pretty much said thanks…i won’t get it.

so, i call again on friday august 21st. i talked to a rep, an incompetent arrogant fool, so i asked to be transferred to a supervisor. he transferred me, the only thing is that he pressed the ‘hung-up’ button rather than the hold button (i’m assuming it wasn’t ‘intentional’). anyhow, i called back and demanded to speak with a supervisor right away. however, the new rep decided he can help me…of course quite useless…so after wasting 10 more minutes he did transfer me to the floor supervisor. the only thing the supervisor was saying was…we can’t and we apologize…so i asked if there is anyone that has the power to change my account or make an actual decision. so, the supervisor from sales transfers me to the customer relations department at 6:30pm pacific time. i wait on hold for 15 minutes, after which i decide to call back later.

i called 30 minutes later and asked specifically for the customer relations department, at which point i was informed they are closed and have been closed since 6pm pacific time. apparently the sales department stays open till 8pm pacific time, but not customer relations….one can surely see what their biggest priority is. anyhow, i essentially got hung up once and the second time i got transferred to a closed department by a supervisor. if she doesn’t know what time the other department closes in her own company (nor was she willing to check prior to sending me there) how is she even capable of managing the floor…

anyhow, i called again on august 24th, to inform them that i am quite unhappy with their service, lack of respect and professionalism. the customer rep realized he won’t be able to actually calm me down, so he states i will get your information and you will get a supervisor contacting you tomorrow (august the 25th). it’s thursday, august 27th and i have yet to get a call back.</br>

on top of this, i did write them a feedback online. and to their reply by email, i responded with an explanation of the events.

why did i not cancel yet, well essentially the fee i must pay is about $600+. while this is doable, they are the only ones with a sim card and i doubt i will get a better deal if i come back to them as a new customer. i can’t yet go to bell…so i must wait till december-ish, once they have their sim cards out.

as soon as your under contract you won’t get the service (and yes…there are more out there). now this is not specific to rogers, telus behaves the same, bell (based on what i’ve heard) behaves similarly. so the best you can hope for is get the best deal possible prior to signing the contract, as you’ll live it for 3 years. time and time again, rogers has proven that a customer under contract is just a small figure for income. we pay through our nose for cell phone service…they charge every small feature…and on top of this…good luck getting attention. go to europe, where there is more competition…you have cheaper phone plans and more features included in the plan. you get more bang for your dollar (well…euro there). at this point, the cheapest you can hope to pay per month is $35 (to include the access fee and tax) and for that you basicly just get to talk to a few people…no voice-mail nor called id. i hope that vodafone decides to bring its business over here…have some healthy competition. so customer service..certainly, just make sure you’re not under contract.

ISOI part 4

it’s been a while since this happened, but i’d have to finish the airport round-about. well, tarom’s rule in europe is 1 bag per person of 25kg, plus the carry-on (not more than 11kg). well, i had two, one of roughly 24kg and the other of roughly 12kg. the nice german girl said she’s only charge me 10 euros per kg over 25. … that’s pretty much my reactions. anyhow, some complaining, whining and smiling got me the following deal. get the smaller bag under 11kg, and they can both go on, at no extra charge. at least one less worry. well by the time i turn around a ‘nice’ romanian fellow decides to make small chat. well, at least i have someone to talk to. get into the secure zone and i my attention gets caught by a commercial, 1L bottle of vodka (smirnoff) for 11 euros. well, that’s a deal in anyone’s book (with some exceptions).

got a bit of time to waste till the plane is supposed to take off, so i whip out my macbook, all happy i finally have free wireless…and to my suprise, the free wifi is nowhere to be found. if i would have known…i would have walked through the secured zone about an hour later. oh well, life goes on, i’m on my way ‘home’. well, it wouldn’t be a true romanian company if they did not delay. of course, the plane had to be delayed. why? well it’s not as if i was gonna get an honest answer from them.

eventually we’re on board, the plane takes off and suprise…tarom is good for something, they give some snacks and yes, beer :) . well, that helped a lot. i sort was willing to overlook the ‘late’ part as long as i was gonna catch my connection to sibiu. well, we arrive in bucharest, and same old airport. same lousy service and same lousy attitude.

given i never flew interior in romania, i was looking for some help. i go to the first information desk i see and ask. and i’m told, ‘go forward and to the right’. i go forward, and the only right i can take it’s through a window. so i look for ‘help’, yes…’help’ in otopeni (stop laughing it’s not that funny). i go to the first person i see with some sort of work clothing; however, as i approach he whips out his cell phone and starts talking… i’m left basicly with my mouth open. well, well…welcome ‘home’. i got to some security guy, who turned out to be quite nice, and he explained how to get to the interior flights.

well, i have to pass through another security point. i am asked to take my shoes off, sweater, and belt. it’s an interior flight, who in their right might would ever consider it? oh well, rules are rules. well, i take my laptop out, place it in the tray. they noticed wires in my bag…so the guy finds it necessary to take each and every one of my wires out. yes, i have my monitor connector, yes i have my audio cables, etc. well, enjoy putting them back together.

eventually i get to the gate. 4 gates to the interior, 4 flights (sibiu, satu mare, baia mare and oradea). all 4 flights leave at 20:45. otopeni only has one take-off strip for interior…something’s gotta give. well…it turned out my flight only left at some time past 21:10. well…i did get to sibiu, a bit late…but then again it’s romania…it’s to be expected.

ISOI part 3

december 16th, munich airport. pleasantly surprised, a source of free wifi…i’m sure by this point the excitement doesn’t need to be explained. and as i write this i sense a familiar ‘lost’ scent. the scent of burned tobacco. it’s been a while since i’ve last tasted it, and for the last few days being by myself…there’s been quite a few moments when i debated whether or not to join the smokers into their ‘pleasurable’ and ‘relaxing’ ways. that combined with seeing cigarette packs everywhere. for those of you who are not aware, canada decided to ‘hide’ the cigarette packs from view, thus you don’t see them in stores; even though you can buy them. thus, in copenhagen and munich airports, those were some of the first things that jumped out at me.

well it’s about 12pm on tuesday, and i spent the night at a hotel…tried to sleep but considering i went to bed at roughly 2pm vancouver time that wasn’t gonna happen without a fight. woke up with a head ache (that has yet to pass) around 6:30am local time. enjoyed the delicious breakfast offered by the hotel and eventually made my way to the airport. coming in the night before, had to put up with a plane delay. as soon as i stepped on the plane, found my seat and closed my eyes with the ipod blasting away. i recall waking up at some point, looking outside, it was dark. couldn’t tell if we were flying or still standing in copenhagen. didn’t quite bother to look at the time and closed my eyes yet again. i remember landing. grabbed a taxi to the hotel and made it to the room. small and cozy, pictures to follow at some point. the best thing of the room was the bathroom floor (no, stop thinking of the shaggy song). why? it was the only place in the room that was heated. the heating in the bathroom was done through the floor, however i failed to find a control for the heat in the room.

once i returned from breakfast i realized the extent of my ‘intelligence’ the night before. assuming that the door to the room is always looked from the outside, i never bothered checking. well, the door has to be locked from the inside with the key. if not, the door can be opened (duh!) and essentially anyone can visit. well i slept the night, went to breakfast, left my laptop, ipod and the rest of my stuff in the room with the door unlocked through the night and during breakfast. got to the airport with ‘all’ my stuff from what i can see, and started looking for tarom’s office. i’m sure no pun was intended given tarom’s office in the airport is placed between a turkish airline office and another middle eastern country.